Chris 1,914 Posted June 7 4 minutes ago, MsKreed said: I’m not sure how many “local” reporters the paper has even had in recent years. Last I knew, one - Jeff Murray. This article by Mountain Home Magazine from 2020 borders on depressing: The Last Reporter 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustAGuy 12 Posted July 10 Interesting topic. People probably don't watch the news anymore. I don't think my generation does and I highly doubt Gen Z does. The only people I know are older boomers and their parents(if they are still alive) with social media who needs a real news broadcast anymore? All big stories are broken on tweeter. I think the news has always been a sham though. These are all affiliates of a FOX, CBS, ABC or NBC. Then you have broadcast groups like say Nexstar. The news is all related and there are so few media companies out there. I don't recall the number off the top of my head but I believe 6 corporations own about 90%(or even higher)of the media in this country. Could you get more local news? Maybe I am not old enough to compare with say the 70s, 80s or even the 90s to now. But I would suspect the internet has a lot to do with it. All you have to do is see how active the WENY and WETM social media pages are in a given day. I only end up on the news if I was watching a program before and didn't change the channel quickly enough. It may stay on if a cute anchor appears lol. But all I mostly see negativity on the news. Shootings, stabbings, arrests. Blah blah blah. It's the same old. It's rare when they have anything good. Sometimes in the beginning they will talk about a cool event going down but honestly that's about it. But if the event has already happened which us usually the case doesn't necessarily do me much good. Lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustAGuy 12 Posted July 10 On 6/7/2023 at 10:27 AM, MsKreed said: They're paywall for the digital version is pretty affordable.....except it lacks much real content just like the print version. Sadly, this isn’t terribly surprising to me....considering the Star-Gazette is almost exclusively National and State news that is gathered at least a day before. Or generic "regional" lifestyle (tourism and home/garden, etc) stories that might contain mildly interesting “magazine” type content – but no hard news about anything happening here. I bet the Binghamton and Ithaca Gannett papers have 98% of the same content. For local content, it rarely carries much more than obituaries and sports scores. And the majority of “news” articles for this area seem to be just a few transitional segue sentences stringing together reprints of Press Releases and public statements (as with the recent Arena/IDA news and the County Exec’s emergency order, etc). Past archives (available at Steel Memorial Library and on newspapers.com) show multi-faceted in-depth reporting that was a result of “man on the beat” chasing down facts and sources. I’m not sure how many “local” reporters the paper has even had in recent years. It's not shocking the paper is a dead thing. It would be one thing if the online content was flowing but even when you could view for free it was so lagging in updates. I'm shocked anybody pays for the online version but who is paying for the physical content now? I mean....the building in Elmira is closed. No idea how any local news would be getting pumped out on there anyway. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustAGuy 12 Posted July 10 I feel like the news has just become propaganda no matter what type of news you're watching. Now they tell you what you should think without basically being straight up blunt about it. There is no more thinking for yourself and they all beat home the same drivel. Even sports news now feels controversial. There is no escape. I have them whining on sportscaster about race and gender and all that stuff. Back during covid times you had to believe in the BS or you were an asshole. Even as they kept turning the stories and coming up with new causes that would make you scratch your Mellon. Things definitely get staged and the news has a lot of fear porn. I wouldn't even be surprised if all these shootings and stabbings they claim happen locally didn't all actually occur. I have a hard time believing that "no quiet days" of violent activity don't exist. It's not like we are a populous of millions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Elmira Telegram 285 Posted July 17 On a related note, "Editorial Cartoonists' Firings Point To Steady Decline Of Opinion Pages In Newspapers" Quote McClatchy, which owns 30 U.S. newspapers, said it would no longer publish editorial cartoons. “We made this decision based on changing reader habits and our relentless focus on providing the communities we serve with local news and information they can’t get elsewhere,” the chain said in a statement. There’s a rich history of editorial cartooning, including Thomas Nast’s vivid takedowns of corrupt New York City politicians in the late 1800s and Herbert Block’s drawings of a sinister-looking Richard Nixon in The Washington Post. At the start of the 20th century, there were about 2,000 editorial cartoonists employed at newspapers, according to a report by the Herbert Block Foundation. Now, Ohman estimates there are fewer than 20. The last full-time editorial cartoonist to win a Pulitzer was Jim Morin of the Miami Herald in 2017. Since then, owing to the diminishing number of employed cartoonists, the Pulitzers have broadened the category in which they compete and renamed it “Illustrated Reporting and Commentary.” While written editorials can sometimes be ponderous and intimidate readers, the impact of a well-done cartoon is instantaneous, Pett said. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chris 1,914 Posted July 17 The Op-Ed section of any newspaper should be a no brainer. You have an editorial and then the people provide the remainder of the content for that section. Political and editorial cartoons have a historical significance and impact, and should be preserved. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chris 1,914 Posted August 4 Maybe it's just me, but taking a Facebook post that a county legislator's wife makes about his illness and turning it into a news report seems pretty cheap to me. 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KarenK 354 Posted August 4 2 minutes ago, Chris said: Maybe it's just me, but taking a Facebook post that a county legislator's wife makes about his illness and turning it into a news report seems pretty cheap to me. I thought the very same thing when I saw it last night. Tacky. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chris 1,914 Posted August 4 Ok so it's not just me then. Personally, I wouldn't consider it a news story at all, out of respect for the person's privacy. But if I were to do so, I would at least contact the family, ask if it was okay or if they preferred privacy. I mean, I get it, it was posted to a Facebook page. That just doesn't automatically mean it's fodder for the news. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chris 1,914 Posted August 5 Aaaaaand they doubled down on it and “updated” with the updated Facebook post. FFS… Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KarenK 354 Posted August 5 11 hours ago, Chris said: Aaaaaand they doubled down on it and “updated” with the updated Facebook post. FFS… Well, Kathi is posting the same post on her page, his page and his public legislative page so I give it's theirs for the taking. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chris 1,914 Posted August 5 I guess, it just seems lazy and somehow wrong to me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MsKreed 1,059 Posted August 5 (edited) 5 hours ago, KarenK said: Well, Kathi is posting the same post on her page, his page and his public legislative page so I give it's theirs for the taking. Seems like the trend lately on the national level also. When there's a significant event (or death) with celebs and public figures, their official social media page is the primary source. Then "news" outlets treat it like a press release official statement and usually add background bio info like what the person is known for, past history, notable career highlights, etc..... to make it "their own". I do agree that it's lazy of the local "journalists" to not add anything beyond the FB post. They could pretend they know something else about him -- how long he's been in office, what boards or legislation or community service he's known for. Former Republican Chair? Serving in his 4th term? Been giving away Fair and Arena tickets for over a decade? Nope, : just what his FB profile states: "15th District Chemung County Legislator". Edited August 5 by MsKreed 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Adam 329 Posted August 11 unless im mistaken, i believe WETM has blocked me from their page. only thing i can think of is they were a little sensitive to my copy & paste comment" regarding Rodney Strange info. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KarenK 354 Posted August 11 7 minutes ago, Adam said: unless im mistaken, i believe WETM has blocked me from their page. only thing i can think of is they were a little sensitive to my copy & paste comment" regarding Rodney Strange info. Never heard of a news station blocking anyone. I'm not sure they even can and there's nothing you said on there even 1/2 as bad as some other things that turn up Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chris 1,914 Posted August 12 On 8/10/2023 at 10:01 PM, KarenK said: I'm not sure they even can Pretty sure they're able to. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KarenK 354 Posted August 12 8 minutes ago, Chris said: Pretty sure they're able to. Weird being a public news page. CC Firewire didn't like something I said one day (they got butt hurt basically over a minor criticism) and turned off my ability to comment on posts. I wasn't blocked though, just couldn't comment. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chris 1,914 Posted August 12 3 hours ago, KarenK said: Weird being a public news page. A public page is still just a page. I can block people on ours as well, although I simply hide their comments so no one else sees them but they think the comment is still there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chris 1,914 Posted October 19 I see Ithaca.com is no longer reporting much news from Candor and Spencer Van-Etten areas now as well. Another "news desert". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
