MsKreed

1 hour ago, TwinTiersLiving said:

Does this mandate differ from mandatory TB testing for example?

Considering that healthcare workers in NYS are explicitly denied any option for Covid (or covid antibody) testing...... this mandate most certainly differs from the quoted example. 

It even differs from existing vaccine mandates that have never required someone with a medical contraindication or existing immunity to be vaccinated anyway.

The arbitrary premise that vaccination is the only option is decidedly unscientific. 

Removing religious exemptions was already permitted a few years ago RE school requirements for measles vaccines. However, this one is the first I've ever heard that excludes medical exemptions and proof of immunity (natural or vaccine derived).  

1 hour ago, KarenK said:

They have no concept of the numbers that involves apparently.  Until they can't get their appointment, or get turned away at the ER or can't have that surgery they need.  It will take that for it sink in.  It seems our new Gov isn't grasping it either.

I’m fighting the urge to weigh in on the fact that people are conflating various premises.

The concern that Moss’s post (and officials of other counties) are expressing isn’t whether or not vaccines are a good idea, but rather the question of how to deal with the “reality” that as many as 20-30% of the (already declining) healthcare workforce could very likely leave service rather than comply.....which will have a drastic impact.

It’s also disappointing that the new governor hasn’t addressed the gaping aperture in her predecessor’s EO that omits any contingencies for medical exemptions and/or natural immunities from previous infections. (To be fair to Hochul, neither of those points were considered in the new mandates that POTUS outlined either).

The Chemung County Exec posted on his FB page that he echoes the concerns of these officials from 10 upstate counties:

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At issue for the counties — Orleans, Genesee, Wyoming, Livingston, Steuben, Wayne, Ontario, Seneca, Yates and Schuyler — is the shrinking number of health care workers and resignations that are due to take effect on Sept. 26, a day before the vaccination requirement is in effect.

"As I am sure you are both aware, all levels of health care are already experiencing significant staffing shortages cause by a myriad of factors," the letter from the counties to Hochul and Zucker stated. "The potential mass exodus of health care staff in late September, coming several weeks after children return to school, coupled with the continued increase in COVID-19 across the state caused by the proliferation of the delta variant is a recipe for crisis throughout the entire health care system."

Considering, at less than 3 weeks away, the state's current 80% vaccination rate among hospital staff and 76% among nursing facility staff (with some counties significantly lower).......it is baffling to me that so many keyboard warriors replying to his post seem to think it will be OK to lose up to 20-30% of the healthcare workforce rather than consider an alternative to this mandate.

33 minutes ago, Kevin said:

They should have to prove they have the hardship! Many are still working and has the same income,  but are choosing to not pay or saying they have a hardship.  

Still working? Even many not working had the same (or higher) income until this week when the bonus $300 finally expires.

Hell, I've heard stories of people who didn't work to begin with (on SSI/public assistance) skipping rent. 

At least property owners have some recourse available now:

3 hours ago, TwinTiersLiving said:

Under New York's enacted moratorium, tenants must submit a hardship declaration, or a document explaining the source of the hardship, to prevent an eviction proceeding from moving forward. Landlords who believe that their tenant has not suffered a financial hardship will now be permitted to request a hearing in court. 

No doubt there will be plenty of red tape and delays to get those hearings, but it's a little more than they had before.

And more satisfaction than employers who reported workers refusing to return to work....staying home and getting paid more. 

26 minutes ago, Chris said:

That confirms it, the parents were idiots.

Yep...sounds like prior to age 17 he'd already "pursued but didn't follow through with earlier legal action".

Makes you wonder if the parents needed to act on his behalf as a minor and didn't want to acknowledge their part in it....or something like, he'd have needed to name the parents as respondents as well?

26 minutes ago, Chris said:

As far as the world seeing his baby penis, dude needs to embrace that. Maybe use it as a pickup line. LOL

LOL...That's one angle 😄 And sounds like he did that to some degree.

On the other hand, how happy would you (or a lot of young men) be to embrace it if baby penis pics of you surfaced for the public to see? Say, like on your band page or something.

I do think it's unlikely that the record company, eta al, being sued really did anything illegal....but like a lot of child entertainment situations, not much concern for the kids' long term well-being. 

It sounds like the parents got $200 bucks. 

This is a more personal (and human) take than citing the black n' white legalese of the lawsuit....sort of the same kind of double-edged feelings as I was imagining. Part cool, part financial compensation, as well as some element of genuine personal embarrassment.

Likely similar (late onset) embarrassment as any 17 yr old's feelings about naked baby pictures showing up at a family reunion, etc.....stuff you may have thought was okay (or even funny/cute) as a younger kid can take on new light as you mature.

But on a far greater scale.

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"Stuff happens like random cool situations where I get paid $500 just to go hang out," Elden said in 2008. He also mentioned getting an internship with artist Shepard Fairey as a result of a radio interview he gave about the album.

But Elden's relationship with the photo and the album's success is complicated. As far back as 2008, he told MTV News that "it's kind of creepy [to think] that that many people have seen me naked. I feel like I'm the world's biggest porn star." And in an interview with Time for the album's 25th anniversary, he said, "[When] I go to a baseball game and think about it: 'Man, everybody at this baseball game has probably seen my little baby penis,' I feel like I got part of my human rights revoked."

Perhaps more relevant for this lawsuit, Elden has also expressed a longstanding frustration with being excluded from the album's success. The Time interview mentions that he had pursued but didn't follow through with earlier legal action against Geffen Records, saying that "it's hard not to get upset when you hear how much money was involved."

 

Full Story HERE 

29 minutes ago, Chris said:

He should be suing his parents then, if they're the ones who made the deal, signed the contract, and got paid. 

I agree with you on that, unless there's proof of either that these allegations are true:

1 hour ago, TwinTiersLiving said:

Now 30, Elden says his parents never signed a release authorising the use of his image on the album.

1 hour ago, TwinTiersLiving said:

The legal case also alleges that Nirvana had promised to cover Elden's genitals with a sticker, but the agreement was not upheld.

In which case, it would make me wonder why (or if) his parents didn't take action way back when.

I wonder how bad the quality would be tuning in on AM.  I doubt as good as a good solid FM signal, but maybe no worse than the weak 106.5 FM that gets staticky or drops.

Consider the options:

1) A really good quality FM stereo signal being wasted on blab or music you don't prefer

2) The Pirate with a sketchy FM signal that doesn't deliver the digital HD quality of (1), but good music with less blab

3) The Pirate with a solid AM signal that might not deliver the digital HD quality of (1), but good music with less blab

23 minutes ago, Chris said:

From the age range in those recreations, I'd guess that he (and perhaps his parents) exploited the image as a kid, to enjoy the attention and pseudo fame. And I imagine as a kid, that would make him feel cool.

If as an adult, he realized that if he had a nickel in royalties for each of the 30 million copies sold, he'd be rich. If he didn't have a legal standing to litigate the commercial use, this was the next best thing?

For the most part I do feel bad for a lot of kids in the entertainment business. Even with newer protection laws, the more successful they are, the more adults are likely to be controlling their lives without 'informed consent' from child.  

PS...they do switch over to sports regularly. I never bothered to research what events or specific days/times 

30 minutes ago, Chris said:

What I do know is they play quite a variety of music with minimal, if any, DJ's talking. ( Seriously, some of the on air banter on other channels is so forced it's painful. )

Anyway it's worth checking out if you can pull in a good signal. 

Yes!!!

We discovered it a year or so ago (after the local radio group switched up different channels and the genres weren't on the same old channels (and the blab seemed to be cranked up). The hubby said he remembered finding it on AM back in the 90's when he had long commutes.

The signal is pretty sketchy at times, but I did discover that it has a LISTEN LIVE streaming button on their website. That's a good option, depending on where you're listen, if internet is more available than their FM signal.

Just now, Chris said:

If you're referring to someone allergic to something in the vaccine or some other physical reason one can't get a vaccine, of course. 

😀 

And that was the point of my revisiting this topic.....his order (which I can't find an official record of):

1 hour ago, MsKreed said:

It seems weird that there's been no mention of how medical exemptions would be addressed.

Masking was excluded as an alternative, and weekly testing (which was specifically disallowed for healthcare workers), does nothing to protect (medically exempt) unvaccinated staff from being exposed to (mild) cases among vaccinated people.

Shouldn't objections be distinguished from medical contraindications?

As a side note, although TB intradermal is only going to produce a local reaction, rather than systemic (like the intradermal PEG test I just took)....I do know one corrections employee that did get a local reaction to "something" in the TB test that was not TB and had it documented what component she was allergic to so she could have an exemption from the yearly test. 

This It's been a month since he made this announcement in a press conference, yet I can't still find any official written documentation that explains the details (of this or his more recent  "all healthcare" mandate).  It seems weird that there's been no mention of how medical exemptions would be addressed.

I'm not aware of anything that's been shared with state employees who are subject to the mandate......wondering if any private sector healthcare workers have received official guidance from the governor's office or DOH? 

Did Captain maybe refuse to go with him?

Dogs are good judges of character

I ❤️ this post.....

This is even better than donating it all to a local charity.

I think giving directly to family embodies the Libertarian principle of voluntaryism, and underscores the idea that people can often do a better job of helping each other independently  than government.

He might be more deranged than we realized.

I really hope SOMEONE THIS DELUSIONAL can refrain from passing any dangerous EOs in the next 10 days.

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“I feel like I did the right thing. I did the right thing for the state,” Cuomo told New York Magazine of his decision to resign. “I’m not gonna drag the state through the mud, through a three-month, four-month impeachment, and then win, and have made the State Legislature and the state government look like a ship of fools.”

(Now tell me you can't 'hear' Trump's voice while you're reading that quote)

I guess you don't need eyesight to spot "someone I would never trust."

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Paterson said he requested a five-day transition period in order to prepare for his own inauguration after Spitzer said he’d step down in wake of a prostitution scandal. But, he argued, Hochul likely doesn’t need much, if any time, for the transition given the months she’s had to prepare since Cuomo’s scandals first came to light.

“I think in the case of Lt. Gov. Hochul, she has been aware that this situation could occur since March — since the investigation began. So, I think as she was sort of hinting yesterday, she’s ready to take over right now,” he said. “I just think the governor has just not resolved in his mind what’s actually going on yet and his self-awareness just does not seem to be particularly helpful to him at this particular time.”

 

9 hours ago, Kevin said:

Nick Grasso of city council donated his $2500, because he said they didn't deserve it because they were sitting at home meeting on tablets provided to them.  I don't remember where he donated it to. 

We need more Libertarians in elected office. 

8 hours ago, Kevin said:

But did she?

😄

I doubt she had a lot of employers begging to get her on their team.  But, it's possible that she was following through with an ultimatum and went back now because he finally did what she'd told him to do.

I there is any truth to THIS ARTICLE , it seems that she saw the handwriting on the wall even before the AG report came out. 

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Sources told News 12 that DeRosa urged Cuomo for weeks to resign or at least announce that he wouldn't seek re-election next year, all in an effort to quell talk of impeachment.

16 minutes ago, KarenK said:

Not gonna lie, although he is the worst Gov ever, I have some concerns about her. She seems to lean very progressive and I don't consider that a good thing.

I'mma bet money she's about the most googled person in the US right now 😆🤣

As for her politics, sounds like she's the type who "evolves" to appease constituents.....

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She apparently visits all 62 New York counties on at least an annual basis, with Politico previously calling her “a presence at every ribbon-cutting, baby-kissing, axe-throwing event the state has to offer.” Apparently, if you invite Kathy Hochul to make an appearance at your event, you should count on her showing up. Politico briefly catalogues a handful of her pit stops:

A group of physicists working on synchrotron radiation instrumentation? Sure. 

The AppleUmpkin Festival in Wyoming County, where there are famously more cows than people? Of course. 

A new brewery? A coworking space in a beleaguered downtown corridor? Anything — literally anything — aimed at advancing women in the workplace? Absolutely.

It’s that last one that’s probably most important here. Hochul spearheaded the administration’s campaign against campus sexual violence, and on her website, notes that she “prioritizes being a voice for all women.” She has purportedly shifted away from some of her earlier, right-leaning positions: As Erie County clerk, for example, she worked with local law enforcement in architecting a plan to have undocumented immigrants arrested if they applied for driver’s licenses, but in 2018, said she had changed her mind. 

 

(SOURCE)

Gov. Andrew Cuomo spends day with possibly his only friend left in Albany :

I'm pretty sure he would would make a run for it, it he weren't fenced in.

8 hours ago, Chris said:

If I had to guess, I'd say once he sees the odds are against him, he'll step down rather than have "impeached" after his name in the history books. But we'll see. 

He doesn't seem to be heading in the direction of resigning....instead he plans to cooperate with the impeachment probe.

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ALBANY, N.Y. — Gov. Andrew Cuomo’s office says it will cooperate with a request from the state Assembly for evidence as part of its impeachment probe, perhaps the clearest sign yet that the governor has no plans to resign soon despite mounting calls for him to quit.

"The Assembly has said it is doing a full and thorough review of the complaints and has offered the Governor and his team an opportunity to present facts and their perspective,” Cuomo spokesperson Rich Azzopardi said in a statement late Thursday afternoon. “The Governor appreciates the opportunity. We will be cooperating."

 

37 minutes ago, Mahatma said:

who also has antibodies from past exposure

This seriously needs to become part of the equation.

When other vaccines have become "mandatory" for NYS schools, they were only for children who could not prove immunity from prior exposure.  Somehow, there seems to be a concerted effort to omit this group (>35 million people) from all discussion on Covid.... it is mind boggling. 

The CDC's FAQ page  that says we should rely on the vaccine for the very same reason we should not rely on natural immunity (because we "don't know")

However, we have learned more about natural and vaccine-induced immunity.....

There is strong evidence that says previously infected individuals are unlikely to benefit from COVID-19 vaccination, and vaccines can be safely prioritized to those who have not been infected before.

Meanwhile, the CDC has recently observed outbreaks with significantly more cases (and hospitalizations) among fully vaccinated than unvaccinated.

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Approximately three quarters (346; 74%) of cases occurred in fully vaccinated persons (those who had completed a 2-dose course of mRNA vaccine [Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna] or had received a single dose of Janssen [Johnson & Johnson] vaccine ≥14 days before exposure). Genomic sequencing of specimens from 133 patients identified the B.1.617.2 (Delta) variant of SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, in 119 (89%) and the Delta AY.3 sublineage in one (1%). Overall, 274 (79%) vaccinated patients with breakthrough infection were symptomatic. Among five COVID-19 patients who were hospitalized, four were fully vaccinated; no deaths were reported. 

And yet more and more mandates are doubling down on vaccines and refusing to recognize natural immunity.

I'd have to say that the "rescue" funds should go to places that had a direct negative impact from the pandemic and the governor's response. 

The nursing facility was on the edge before the pandemic....and already being evaluated.

With that said, it should only be eligible for "rescue" funds if the county incurred extra costs due to covid (OT, PPE, etc etc) and not reimbursed through some other program.