Elizabeth Whitehouse
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On 11/11/2023 at 10:20 PM, Elizabeth Whitehouse said:"Flattening" the mall for any reason is a terrible idea. Repurpose it, yes, but don't tear it down.
I couldn't agree more. Flattening anything is a bad idea - environmentally and economically. It could be repurposed in so many ways.
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4 hours ago, Zapp Brannigan said:I find it hilarious she pointed out the fact that she was using British spelling
So glad to keep you amused.
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6 minutes ago, Chris said:Humor us, and name three.
Turn the excessively large parking lots into an urban farm, or community garden. Convert most of the shops into living spaces, some with second storeys. (British spelling). Turn one of the big stores into a convention center.
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I find your answer totally lacking imagination. There are many, many ways that site could be repurposed/converted. Too many to go into here.
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17 hours ago, KarenK said:Well, it's privately owned, not county owned, so I guess that would be up to the owners.
Yes it would be up to the owners. Tearing it down is still a bad idea.
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"Flattening" the mall for any reason is a terrible idea. Repurpose it, yes, but don't tear it down.
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6 hours ago, Chris said:That’s absolutely ridiculous. Along with the freedom to be able to vote comes the freedom of not voting should one not want to.
I'd rather live in Australia than the United States!
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4 hours ago, KarenK said:No doubt it would be different, but that's what makes America great. We have choice.
We can argue at length about whether America is great. We can also discuss whether apathy is an admirable quality.
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3 hours ago, Adam said:that goes both ways, there are many people out there that really should NOT vote. you might be able to compel votes, but you cannot compel them to be be informed
There sure are. But I don't know how you prevent them from voting and maintain a semblance of democracy
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21 hours ago, LocalSportsGuy said:This race was a lot tighter then I possibly could ever imagine.
In Australia, if you do not vote, you are fined $200, or thereabouts. There is the option to spoil your ballot which is a vote for none of the above. We could do with the same policy here. In very rough terms, the 13,000 registered voters in Elmira are divided into 5000 Dems, 4000 unaffiliated and 3500 Republicans.
How different our world would be if everyone voted.
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8 hours ago, Zapp Brannigan said:Just makes you wonder whose buddy is fixing the clock tower so many better ways to spend that 3.5 million. Most people can only read digital clocks these days anyways
Ha, ha. You are right about teaching children to tell time.
I don't know who the buddy is, and I don't know how the contractor was selected. So much we don't know about the workings of the City.
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1 minute ago, Adam said:i would guess that 3.5 million( up a cool mill in a year) is ridiculous to spend on a clock that wont even chime? likely also it is symbolic of past/current administrations that dont seem to care to keep up on upkeep/maintenance issues in order to make themselves look good by "saving money", though i dont think the pool is anywhere near worth investing in at this point, it would have seen more use by the public than the clock tower will
I think I agree with you. Saving the clock tower looks good. So what if 2.7 million came from COVID relief funds. (Hardly the intent of the bill.) This is one case where dismantling might be the better solution. But save City Hall, whatever the cost!
For 3.5 million one could rebuild Brand Park pool and provide a much-needed recreational outlet for the Southside. That would probably be enough money to put in the equipment necessary to turn it into an ice rink in winter.
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2 minutes ago, KarenK said:I'm curious why the uproar over saving the "historic" clock but a complete flip when it comes to preserving Brand Park Pool (into something other than a pool) for "historic" reasons.
It's not a flip. Of course the clock tower needs to be saved. The point is that if this project had been started 10 or 15 years ago, it would not have been so expensive. The City of Elmira seems to have two coping mechanisms: ignore the problem until it is too late to save the building, then tear it down, or wait until you can find a grant to do the work. Personally, I don't see why other entities should pay for what the City needs to do.
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To Ann,
Taking your points one by one: I can't argue with your first paragraph, except for the voting bit. The two party system really doesn't work. Not when one of the two parties seems hell-bent on doing away with democracy. The people who do not identify with one of the major parties out-weighs the adherents to either one. Ranked choice voting (and NO electoral college) would enable dissenting voices to express their positions.
Yes, the majority of Americans are "good, hard working, kind and generous people" And, yes, "the loudest voices are the ones heard". But those voices are not just a small minority. They represent at least one-third of the population. I think that is a problem.
we will have to agree to disagree on the paragraph about armed service. I am 120% a pacifist and I do not think that any war is justified. World War II being the exception, can you give a couple of examples of armed conflict that served the interests of the American people, and not the military-industrial complex?
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54 minutes ago, Chris said:I'd be curious to know what the cost would have been then vs now. If I had to hazard a guess, it would have still been a pretty steep price tag.
Just a few months ago, the price was $2 million. The sudden increase has been attributed to inflation and COVID supply chain problems. So, seven years ago it might not have been that bad.
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7 hours ago, Zapp Brannigan said:If you don't like it then why are you still here? Plenty of other countries you can go to so don't let the doorknob hit you where the good lord split you!!
I am still here because, for better or worse, this has been home for nearly forty years. I have three children and two grandchildren. I some very good friends, a lovely house and a natural garden 25 years in the making. One can lead a perfectly acceptable life with friends and interests without much liking the way the country is run. And without much liking a good percentage of the population.
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On 10/24/2023 at 10:40 PM, Adam said:the sheer stupidity of that statement is simply mind-boggling
OK. Defend your position. Why is Israel right and the rest of the world wrong?
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On 10/24/2023 at 10:45 PM, Hal said:Your words ring very Un American now
Yes. I am un-American. I find very little to like about this country.
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On 10/18/2023 at 2:58 PM, Chris said:For curiosity's sake, can you provide those numbers?
Registered voters: Dems 5067; 4330 unaffiliated; 3564 republicans.
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1 hour ago, Chris said:Seems reasonable to me.
And how do you do that without many civilian deaths?
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25 minutes ago, Chris said:Seems reasonable to me.
If that was their plan. But it seems that they want to flatten Gaza.
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Yes. There were Jews in that area. We are told that Jesus was a Jew. And Arabs, now known as Palestinians were there too.
I find it absolutely shocking that the United Nations could just take land from the Palestinians and give it to Jews. It would be equally shocking if they had taken land from Italy and given it to Somalis, just as an extreme example.
Arabs and Jews do co-exist peacefully in Israel. But Palestinians need/deserve their own country.
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1 minute ago, Hal said:Thank you for the History lesson as much as it isn’t needed , but needs to be remembered so as not to be repeated. And I believe that your Worldly travels were of a much different nature than mine . So , you are Anti Israeli which makes you Anti Jew ? No I suppose …
Anti-Israeli does not make me anti-Jew. As the saying goes, some of my best friends are Jews. And some are Christians. I do not hold misguided beliefs against anyone.
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1 minute ago, Hal said:Oh Definitely! But as former Military , and proud of it , I could never agree to disagree with an Anti Semite let alone a terrorist sympathizer…
Being in the military is nothing to be proud of. Worse if you can't read. I have said that I am not an anti-Semite (because Palestinians are as Semitic as Jews); I am anti-Israeli.
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Elmira does not need more low-income housing projects. If there is one thing such projects have in common, it is keeping its residents low-income. Any housing projects should be mixed income.
And there are lots, I mean lots, of empty properties.