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ELMIRA, N.Y. (WETM) – Public records obtained by 18 News reveal new details about a travel proposal that was presented to the Elmira City Planning Commission. The project involves “Travel Centers of America,” one of the biggest truck stop companies in the U.S.

The travel center is being proposed on East Church Street, just off-186. That’s next to the “Welcome to Elmira” sign and across the street from Dandy Mart. The proposed development would include:

“A new minimart facility also having food service (11,260 square feet), pedestrian vehicle fueling islands (16 lanes) with an overhead canopy, truck fueling islands (6 lanes) with an overhead canopy., truck service center (8,331 sq. ft.), 102 truck parking spaces, 64 pedestrian vehicle parking spaces (including ADA spaces) and 8 electric vehicle charging stations/parking spaces.”

The center would also have three “Quick Service Restaurants.” Records show the new truck stop would employ up to 10 employees per shift.

 

Read more about the proposal here.

What are your thoughts about this?

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After watching the plans for this nightmare unfold … there just so many things wrong here ! 
#1 - right next to an elementary school  #2 - ingress and egress will be a Charlie Foxtrot , #3 - imagine the traffic at school bus and work time traffic coming from 86 and Jerusalem Hill merging into one lane to get to Church Street , now add in truck traffic . #4 - a “ walkway “ across from Beecher school , not to mention the walking trail on Newtown Creek … walk ways … for what , or shall I say whom ?! The hookers , drug dealers and street urchins will be the only ones benefiting ! 
This is NOT the location for a truck stop City Officials , but they are already counting the tax dollars they believe will be just flowing in ! But hell in a few years the County Taxpayers will help the City by shouldering the City’s screw up Again… can you say First Arena !! 

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1 minute ago, Hal said:

After watching the plans for this nightmare unfold … there just so many things wrong here ! 
#1 - right next to an elementary school  #2 - ingress and egress will be a Charlie Foxtrot , #3 - imagine the traffic at school bus and work time traffic coming from 86 and Jerusalem Hill merging into one lane to get to Church Street , now add in truck traffic . #4 - a “ walkway “ across from Beecher school , not to mention the walking trail on Newtown Creek … walk ways … for what , or shall I say whom ?! The hookers , drug dealers and street urchins will be the only ones benefiting ! 
This is NOT the location for a truck stop City Officials , but they are already counting the tax dollars they believe will be just flowing in ! But hell in a few years the County Taxpayers will help the City by shouldering the City’s screw up Again… can you say First Arena !! 

Don’t forget the Dandy Mini Mart across the street.  

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I think it’s a better location than the Sperr Park wetlands, and seems like the ramp could easily be configured for easy on/off access to the highway.

 

It's not necessarily a huge "job creation" project.....but I think the sales tax as well as increased valuation will help with the county, city and school tax bases. And I don’t really see why its proximity to the elementary school would be any more of a concern than Dandy. 

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I'm not against it, at least not yet. 

What's interesting to me is how, every time one of these places comes up in conversation, people instantly associate them with human trafficking. I've been to a few of these places in my travels and I've never seen the place crawling with "lot lizards" or any sketchy behaviors. They're usually pretty well lit and busy enough to deter criminal activity. If there were anyplace I'd expect sketchy stuff to happen, it'd be in the far section of the Dandy lot or that truck lot over on Water Street. 

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31 minutes ago, Chris said:

If there were anyplace I'd expect sketchy stuff to happen, it'd be in the far section of the Dandy lot or that truck lot over on Water Street. 

Completely agree with this.  I was going to mention the sketchy truck lot on Water in my prior comment which is right practically right smack across the street from an apartment complex.

Stopping at a TA or other big truck stop is my preference when traveling. They are clean, have good choices for food and very well lit and attended.  I have never had a concern about one ever.  Middle of no where roadside rest areas also give me the creeps.

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37 minutes ago, Chris said:

What's interesting to me is how, every time one of these places comes up in conversation, people instantly associate them with human trafficking. I've been to a few of these places in my travels and I've never seen the place crawling with "lot lizards" or any sketchy behaviors.

 Excellent point.  I don’t know how or why that BS notion got started or why it seems to thrive.

4 minutes ago, KarenK said:

Stopping at a TA or other big truck stop is my preference when traveling. They are clean, have good choices for food and very well lit and attended.  I have never had a concern about one ever.  Middle of no where roadside rest areas also give me the creeps.

Exactly. 

TA, Love’s, Flying J, Buckey’s.....the list goes on. All very clean, very well-lit and very safe.

Unlike rest areas that are unattended and poorly lit, truck stops are actually known for being the safest place to stop, take a break and even sleep in your vehicle

I’ve known many people (particularly females who travel alone) who attest to this.

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i dont have a problem with it really but looking at judson st its hard to see how tracter trailers coming out wont casue traffic issues right there

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5 minutes ago, tpaine said:

i dont have a problem with it really but looking at judson st its hard to see how tracter trailers coming out wont casue traffic issues right there

They have plans to redo roads and exits/entrances to it.  

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maybe theyll widen judson st into that grassy are then we'll see i guess

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